The Thing Meister website where the grips can be ordered that I am here warning against purchasing is: http://thingmeister.yolasite.com/products.php The man's name is Warner Lane according to his email he responds with
The reasons for my negative review & recommendation is that the back sides of the grips are not properly are not properly elevated or are missing so that the safety does not properly function. For instance With these grips installed, the weapon will fire without a magazine in it, which is not how the pistol is designed is designed. I've checked with the hi-point manufacturer and have confirmed that the current issues with my 9mm C9 are due to improperly designed grips.
so now I am adding JB Weld and a spring to the back side of them and then will attempt to carve my additions to the grips to conform to the proper design that allows these functions to correctly work.
But there is more wrong with these grips than that.
I ordered "premium" ebony wood grips and there was a suspicious line running across the upper third of both grips perpendicular to all other milling lines on the backs of the grips, Those lines when examined through my high resolution photography turned out to be 45 degree butt joints where the little pieces of wood used for my little grips HAD BEEN JOINED IN TWO PIECES AT A 45 degree angle!
So I wrote him about it and he asked me to send the pictures. So I did and did not offer any additional explanation other than arrows to the joint on the front and back side because it is plainly evident that on both grips there is a man-made joint that any experienced any wood worker could immediately identify as such.
so he replied that he sees the "cracks" (which are joints that are cracking, not cracks from over-tightening. and said that I must have over tightened them, which angered me. he didn't even apologize or seem to even have even scrutinized the photographs very much that I had sent, or as i told him, he was trying "to weasel out" of responsibility for the shoddy product.
Before that, he had replied that he assured (me) that the grips were made of one piece of wood, not jointed wood. So I kept asking him what accounted for the joints and his poor response blaming me and the fact that there is a recessed shoulder behind the screw holes in the grips and a raised, like profiled shoulders in the grips to accept the screws which precludes them from being over-tightened and also that if the screws are not tightened all the way down to the point of stripping out the frame, the various functions of the pistol that are dependent on the grips being tight on the frame, SUCH AS RELEASE OF THE FIRING PIN, DO NOT WORK.
He actually said very little in this exchange other than assuring me of the one wood piece construction that was not true and that I must have over tightened the screws which is impossible. But believe me, for $113, I had had PLENTY to say to him during the email exchange.
He also did not ask for the grips back, which to me, if he failed see the problem I am alleging in the photographs I sent , he would have certainly done, that is, IF he is the least bit concerned about craftsmanship and quality of his product. But he didn't.
Like I said, i am currently in the process of attempting to add material to the backside of the grips so i can file it down and make the two functions properly function.
Mr. Lane did provide a full refund.
So I just successfully finished addint features to the grips to make the [pistol function correctly. a 2 day job of letting the material dry and then carving it to fit. Then and composed an email message and sent it to Mr. Lane that read:
"I just finished manufacturing additions onto your incomplete grips and now my safety works correctly, does not rattle around and fall out of lock and my pistol doesn't fire with the magazine out because I shaved down one side of the too short wood projection you put where the spring is supposed to go. But I had to shorten the spring slowly by about half because it was way too tall for your grip.
The reasons for my negative review & recommendation is that the back sides of the grips are not properly are not properly elevated or are missing so that the safety does not properly function. For instance With these grips installed, the weapon will fire without a magazine in it, which is not how the pistol is designed is designed. I've checked with the hi-point manufacturer and have confirmed that the current issues with my 9mm C9 are due to improperly designed grips.
so now I am adding JB Weld and a spring to the back side of them and then will attempt to carve my additions to the grips to conform to the proper design that allows these functions to correctly work.
But there is more wrong with these grips than that.
I ordered "premium" ebony wood grips and there was a suspicious line running across the upper third of both grips perpendicular to all other milling lines on the backs of the grips, Those lines when examined through my high resolution photography turned out to be 45 degree butt joints where the little pieces of wood used for my little grips HAD BEEN JOINED IN TWO PIECES AT A 45 degree angle!
So I wrote him about it and he asked me to send the pictures. So I did and did not offer any additional explanation other than arrows to the joint on the front and back side because it is plainly evident that on both grips there is a man-made joint that any experienced any wood worker could immediately identify as such.
so he replied that he sees the "cracks" (which are joints that are cracking, not cracks from over-tightening. and said that I must have over tightened them, which angered me. he didn't even apologize or seem to even have even scrutinized the photographs very much that I had sent, or as i told him, he was trying "to weasel out" of responsibility for the shoddy product.
Before that, he had replied that he assured (me) that the grips were made of one piece of wood, not jointed wood. So I kept asking him what accounted for the joints and his poor response blaming me and the fact that there is a recessed shoulder behind the screw holes in the grips and a raised, like profiled shoulders in the grips to accept the screws which precludes them from being over-tightened and also that if the screws are not tightened all the way down to the point of stripping out the frame, the various functions of the pistol that are dependent on the grips being tight on the frame, SUCH AS RELEASE OF THE FIRING PIN, DO NOT WORK.
He actually said very little in this exchange other than assuring me of the one wood piece construction that was not true and that I must have over tightened the screws which is impossible. But believe me, for $113, I had had PLENTY to say to him during the email exchange.
He also did not ask for the grips back, which to me, if he failed see the problem I am alleging in the photographs I sent , he would have certainly done, that is, IF he is the least bit concerned about craftsmanship and quality of his product. But he didn't.
Like I said, i am currently in the process of attempting to add material to the backside of the grips so i can file it down and make the two functions properly function.
Mr. Lane did provide a full refund.
So I just successfully finished addint features to the grips to make the [pistol function correctly. a 2 day job of letting the material dry and then carving it to fit. Then and composed an email message and sent it to Mr. Lane that read:
"I just finished manufacturing additions onto your incomplete grips and now my safety works correctly, does not rattle around and fall out of lock and my pistol doesn't fire with the magazine out because I shaved down one side of the too short wood projection you put where the spring is supposed to go. But I had to shorten the spring slowly by about half because it was way too tall for your grip.
I did not take pictures before assembling
it but it took 2 days for the JB weld to dry and carving and filing the
additional material into the tiny tabs on the factory grips THAT ARE NOT ON
YOUR GRIPS.
So I am writing to tell you how I've
improved your work and ask if you would like me to disassemble the grips again
and take pictures of my work to SHOW YOU HOW Hi-Point custom grips ARE SUPPOSED
TO LOOK?"
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